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胖瘦吐槽大会

主题:胖美人和瘦美人,古人更钟爱哪一个?

嘉宾:杨玉环、赵飞燕和两个胖皇帝

观看提示1:本次大会请到的嘉宾自带穿越者光环,若有太“博古通今”的行为,敬请谅解​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

第一位吐槽者:杨玉环

很多现代的胖姑娘认为,被嫌“胖”爱“瘦”的现实逼到墙角,唐朝还会为她们开一扇窗,毕竟像我这么大吨位的胖姑娘都能集万千宠爱于一身​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。坊间也传闻三郎(唐玄宗)在读《汉成帝内传》时有点躲着我,因为他怕我看到汉成帝放在手心里宠着的赵飞燕是一个瘦美人时,我会被虐出一华清池的眼泪​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。这是不是就可以推断我真的很胖,唐朝就是胖子的天堂呢?

我承认自己不如飞燕瘦,走在大风中也不会被刮走,不需要建个七宝避风台来保证人身安全,但我胖得很美很匀称,一个我可顶不了俩​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。再说了,倘若三郎眼里只有胖子的话,他让高力士给儿子李亨选妃的标准就不该是又白又修长了,而是壮如山河​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

肯定有人要拿周昉画的仕女图来打我的脸,说里面的女人多么丰肥、富态,不就可以证明唐朝审美是喜欢胖胖的女孩子吗?我若反驳周昉画的大多是物质生活丰富的已婚贵族妇女,日子过得好、长不成“路有冻死骨”的凄惨模样,大家肯定觉得我这话站不住脚​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。那你们不妨随我去看看阎立本的《步辇图》,里面给太宗抬辇、执扇的,哪个不娇小?张萱的《捣练图》里的姑娘们胖的大多是略带双下巴的脸,谁知道她们肥美的衣服下是不是藏着魔鬼般的身材呢?毕竟我朝服饰对突出身体曲线这块不太友好​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

我再给大家读几句唐诗​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。“西北风来吹细腰,东南月上浮纤手”“态浓意远淑且真,肌理细腻骨肉匀”——怎么看这诗都不可能写的是一个虎背熊腰的美人​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。贯休在《白雪歌》也直言“为人无贵贱,莫学鸡狗肥”,不主张把自己活成一个圆润的胖子​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。白居易也为自己会跳舞的侍妾小蛮作诗“杨柳小蛮腰”流传百世,所以在大唐盛世不是越胖越好,也不是越瘦越好,我朝对身材要求比较宽松,包容性很大​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。而且,日子好过微胖一点也正常​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。瘦到能看到骨头的美人,譬如崔云娘,她在李宣古这个诗人的笔下就是类似钟馗的存在​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

第二位吐槽者:赵飞燕

大家好,我是瘦到能在掌上跳舞的赵飞燕,不喜欢我的人应该很少吧​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。已知的很喜欢我的帝王,除了你们熟悉的汉成帝,我猜还能有一位——好细腰的楚王​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。毕竟我很瘦,既不用学他的后宫美人以及朝中文武节食或系紧腰带,也不用担心为博他一笑而饿死,毕竟我很瘦​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

说到这里,我要为杨玉环妹妹说句公道话,世人怎么就认定她是个胖子了?是因为看了《开元天宝遗事》里说她“素有肉体,至夏苦热”吗?我这么瘦夏天也怕热,裙子一定要选清凉款​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。而且作为一个优秀的舞者,玉环妹妹若是满身肥肉,皇帝还有眼看她跳那么多次《霓裳羽衣舞》吗?皇帝又不是她的健身教练,要训练她运动减肥​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

再者,她如果真的胖,诗人也无法以她为模特写出“温泉水滑洗凝脂”这么美的诗句来了​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。像我这么瘦,汉朝的审美也不一定就是以瘦为美,蔡邕还写过“面如明月,辉似朝日,色如莲葩,肌如凝蜜”这样的句子​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。而且我的妹妹赵合德,人人说她“弱骨丰肌”,也没见汉成帝对她的宠爱比我少​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

所以说,玉环妹妹也就是微胖了些,和我一样不小心被全天下最尊贵的男人爱上了,仅此而已​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。我瘦得独一无二,她也胖得独一无二​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

若真要找一个信奉胖即是美的时代,那可能是石器时代,毕竟震慑野兽很需要强健的体魄以及力大无穷​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

第三位吐槽者:匿名胖皇帝甲

前面两位姑娘说了自己所在的朝代对于胖瘦的看法,我吨位这么大,必须也来发个言​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。但是我不讨论男的,如果我不是皇帝,可能也没哪个朝代的人能欣赏我,毕竟随便选一个时代——要求士大夫要精致的春秋战国时人就会疯狂吐槽我​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。所以,我就对各个朝代对女性的审美问题简单说几句​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

班昭在《女诫》里说“女以弱为美”,晋朝顾恺之在《洛神赋图》上画的仙女姐姐也是清瘦型,而隋唐日子过得红火,仕女图里的女子偏富态,这没毛病,用身材来炫富​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。到了《韩熙载夜宴图》时,仕女开始瘦了点儿,大宋时更是瘦得很明显,仕女图中尽是些娇小中带点哀怨的女人​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。元朝复兴唐朝的仕女画风,美人有点小肚子,看上去胖胖的​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。明清的话,仕女图又“瘦身”了,端的是鹅蛋脸、柳叶眉、小凤眼​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。即便在外国画家郎世宁这种写实派的画里,清朝后妃也是清瘦的居多​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。所以,我还有什么能吐槽的呢,只能灰溜溜地抱着自己的肉下场了​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

第四位吐槽者:匿名胖皇帝乙

前面那位大兄弟不好意思说的我来说​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。你们肯定想知道皇帝里的胖子多吗?很多!我就是一个​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。我从不看清朝历代的皇帝画像,看他们做什么,一个个都瘦成啥样了,让胖胖的我如何继续坚强​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。唯一一个有点小胖的皇太极,还能骑着马儿走个五十里,我不服!

完颜守绪更不服,他直到亡国时,才深刻意识到自己太胖不方便骑马逃跑这个事实​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。但同样是胖,高延宗低头就能趴到地上,得亏底下有个肚子垫着;坐着能直接往后仰倒,但他在快被北周灭了时能上场战斗​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。所以说,绝对不能小看胖子,他们都是潜力股​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。刘彧胖得都被刘子业送外号“猪王”了,他忍气吞声、忍辱负重,终于瞅准时机把刘子业从皇帝的位置上揪了下来​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

说完上面这些典型的胖子皇帝,再来说说高产胖子皇帝的朝代——明朝​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。我看到朱高炽就高兴,因为他胖得走路都要人扶,他老爹都看不惯他了,也算是……同病相怜​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

再偷偷爆个料,你们仔细看历代帝王图上的宋太祖,能看到他的双下巴噢​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

要说减肥的方法,前面出场的两位姑娘比我有发言权​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。赵飞燕减肥靠练“气术”,杨玉环则是喜欢泡桃花浴,就不知道是为了减肥呢还是为了遮掩狐臭味,妹子别打我……

上古提倡喝茶减脂,西周觉得鲤鱼煲汤能减肥,华佗闲着没事教人练五禽戏,石崇简单直接让姬妾节食减肥,唐代流行喝桃花茶减肥,宋朝大户人家爱食用深海珊瑚藻,还发明了反复搓洗总会瘦的毛巾减肥法​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。元代不甘示弱,鬃刷这一神奇刷搓得人痛并快乐着​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。明朝还有御医亲证有效的荷叶(灰)减肥茶,宫中女子还能穿“百扣衣”束腰,以上都不行的还可以蹴鞠运动减肥​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍​​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍​‍‌‍‌‍‌‍​。

反正这些法子对我都没用,我既不想动也不想乱吃,还是选择相思减肥法吧,“衣带渐宽我不悔”!

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